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john_1
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How many peoples is very scared... are there any bulls out there this morning....Get ready for a squeeze me thinks.
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seems lot of early bulls out there.Me thinks bears only get up in the next half hour or so.
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saash
Super Contributor
Afraid, Very afraid!
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_nova
Super Contributor
Definite squeeze on today. Things are going to get woes! The conundrum is the spikes in PT and AU versus what's playing out in US markets and the uncertainty about Eastern Europe and just how deeply leveraged EZ banks are. In my opinion, we may rally like lunatics for now but the bulls are going to eventually end up as Espetada's
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john_1
Super Contributor
ya I am talking gap close not a new up leg... the fact that despite all of the ***** going on overseas we have held support is very impresive..
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saash
Super Contributor
So are we closing both gaps?
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Closing the gap on the 16th would be delicious
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john_1
Super Contributor
Good question... me thinks that it would hardly make sence to rally for a measly 100 points when there is another 300 points up for grabs..
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I mean anyone that thought that with the closing levels set on the Dow last night the FTSE would not attempt to test the corresponding support levels should just give up trading...
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john_1
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this is exactly what was freeking me out all of yesterday.. How can we be holding when the dow and the FTSE are tanking..much happier today. at least we are moving with the others.
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just go with the direction....this is not good for the bulls....or even the "investors"
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SimonPB
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does anybody actually have the correlation between the local market and international markets ?? somebody commented yesterday how the dow was back at lows and we was more then 10% off lows ..
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ya that be about right....bit difficult to compare the futures cause the contracts have changed
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SimonPB
Valued Contributor
I would compare topi .. fair enough comparison ..
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richardw
Super Contributor
It really doesn't feel like it's correlated. A few shares are close to their 52w lows but many, many are way above. Retailers seem convinced they're on a different planet.
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SimonPB
Valued Contributor
largely there isn;t any. Just look at the dow during our bull market of 03-08 while the dow went largely nowhere in comparasion ..
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john_1
Super Contributor
Thought about your question Simon....its not the magnitude thats corrolated its the timing and rythym of the day that is linked.
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SimonPB
Valued Contributor
john, good point .. but again is it ?? I don;t know, and the question is do we pre-empt or follow ?? I woudl suspect the former and the sell off on Tuesday night in the US wasn;t followed locally on Wednesday to anything near the same degree ??
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SimonPB
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point I am really trying to raise is that we need to challenge our beliefs. We believe things (often supported by talking heads, chat forums etc.) that are false - and it'll cost us money. So we need to interrograte our beliefs repeatedly ..
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john_1
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ya true.But we were on 3 month support.. But we still opened down and failed to close the gap both very strong signals of follow my leader....the thing is I believe that the US actually is trading against the rest of the world markets not leading or following...this is demonstrated most clearly by the arbitrage of the gaps between the futures and cash markets...US futures rise as the the ftse rises...creating the gap..which when closed will have forced a sell off in the European markets..yesterday is a great example...its our anticipatin of this that creates these long protracted squeeze's between 11-3pm.. Ie if we are up and US futures are positive expect a sell off into the close if we are down expect a rally into the close..ofcourse this works until it does not..
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