yeah B-baby, actually mulling a long on this hond as I think its due for a bounce especially on rand. Did you hear their CEO on CNBC......you'll be hard pressed to find a bigger moron anyway this side of the universe. I actually lost alot on sappi last year cause I betted or was hoping that that they were not completely insane to go through the M-real purchase. Before the ink on the deal dried they are now cutting down the extra production capacity they just bought. There should actually be an investigation on that deal as the only thing that makes sense to me is that......someonz got really rich the C way!