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Ninja
Just applying maths will allow you to beat the roulette table every time you go to the casino! Damn, this is the first interesting thread on this forum for as long as I can remember! Remember to beat the casino, just like the markets, you don't need to know where the ball will land next, you just need a higher probability of it landing where you choose over the course of say 10 spins of the wheel. If you have a better than 50% probability, then over 100 spins of the wheel you will win. So how do you put the odds in your favour is the golden question then!!! Ok, firstly this system does not play numbers, only black and red - a 50/50 chance of the ball landing on either black or red. These odds are not good enough. So, what you do is wait for the ball to fall twice in a row either red or black and enter a bet on the third spin. The probability of it switching colours is now firmly in your favour. If it doesn't you simply double your bet next spin and the odds are even better that you will win. Take R2000 to the table and start with a R100 bet on black or red as per the above. Follow the system and you will win cash.Easy, simple, noone else is doing it but it works. Every time.

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26-10-2010 12:26 PM

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SimonPB
nope .. coz the odds are 50/50 every time .. you always start from the beginning, what went before counts for nothing .. and then red/black is not 50/50 as there are also two green slots ..

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26-10-2010 12:42 PM

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theyoungster
the numbers can be behave irrational longer than you can remain solvent...hmmm where did i hear that one??

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26-10-2010 12:52 PM

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Ninja
Nope....only 1 green slot, not 2. Yes the odds are always 50/50 but the probability is not. If you have had 4 reds in a row I guarentee you black is comming very very soon. With a wager of R100 you can double up for a further 4 or 5 spins affordably. I used this system time and time again and NEVER lost money. I have never seen a casino spin more than 6 of 1 colour in a row, ever. if you enter on the 3rd spin you will win. If you don't believe me try it for yourself. Its simple, you are putting the probabilty in your favour, the same as entering a long trade with RSI, MACD and Stochastic all turning up from extreme OS position.......could go either way but the probability is it will retrace in the short term. All roulette tables now have digital screens on the tables highlighting in red and black the numbers that have come up.....look for yourself next time you are there - every time you have 2 or 3 of the same colour in a row it switches......just because you have been told you can't beat the casino doesn't mean you can't - just use maths to put the probability in your favour. Try it, it's money for jam.

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26-10-2010 12:53 PM

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26-10-2010 12:55 PM

It works. 50% of the time. (technically closer to 47%)

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AJDK
Go and do a search for Martingale startegie. You are not the first to try it, and in the short term you might make money. The casinos have a 2,7% winning margin and they will make money out of you. They know about the strategie and will probably welcome you to play it. The problem is they have maximum bet sizes, meaning you can only double up a few times. If the spin goes against you again, you loose quite badly. Be careful where you play, I have seen 17 of a coulor in a row, 13's, 12's etc. I have got proof if you really want it. Good luck!

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26-10-2010 01:04 PM

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26-10-2010 01:26 PM

Well you are right about one thing it is a interesting thread.......

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SimonPB
some tables ahve double zero .. which gives 2 green .. and youu are way mistaken .. the easiest way to prve thhis is if it worked, casino's would all be out of business ..

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26-10-2010 01:28 PM

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You obviously don't gamble much... Ive seen it land on the same colour for more than 20 spins in a row... and therefore your double up theory is only gonna make you broke as the casino puts a maximum bet limit on the table to stop this very thing... lastly, the house always wins and the house can stay solvent for a hellva a lot longer than you...

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26-10-2010 01:32 PM

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prancing_horse
I've spent hundreds, if not a thousand of hours, studing roulette, and devising various systems over the last 30years and still enjoy trying to beat the wheel, and please believe me, that colours (r & b), is the QUICKEST way of seeing your ring sans mirror. I've experienced times when a coloum or dozen does not appear for over 20 spins, when it should appear every 3rd spin. I'm led to believe that the record number of spins at Monte Carlo for a colour not appearing is in excess of 30 spins, therefore there is not enough money even in Saudi Arabia to save you. I've invested too much time in roulette systems for anyone to tell me they win all the time, win some time..yes, win most of the time..only if you are very disciplined and not greedy, win all the time ...no way Doris Day.

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26-10-2010 01:36 PM

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Ninja
Starting with R100 and a table limit of R4000 you can double up 6 times.....entering on the third spin this means you would need 9 reds in a row to lose......very very very unlikely. Anyway, didn't want to prove it works here.....try it next time you are in a casino.....I took R6000 out of Grand West using this exact strategy last week and I have yet to lose using it. Much much better than putting R20 on number 7 and hoping.

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26-10-2010 01:40 PM

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Hi Threre - I worked in a casino for years as a dealer and I can tell you that this system does not work. Table max and min are related to ten times the table min. Ie: Table min is R10 thus red black table colurs are R100. and maximums are 100x min thus R10'000 per colour. I have seen many many six colours in a row and many sevens and yes the european tables have 1 zero and the American tables have double zeros. rather keep your money in your pocket. Einstein looked at the mechanics (mathematically speaking) and come to the conclution that the only way to win is to steel while the dealers not looking. Only my humble opinion.

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26-10-2010 01:41 PM

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prancing_horse
If that is your system, you are sure to back every loser, in other words you will always catch the falling knife. You Must remember one thing,The ball has no MEMORY.Please try your system by generating random numbers on your computer, then apply your system, I'll bet you are not going to sleep tonight from the fright youi'll get.

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26-10-2010 01:47 PM

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bothac_1
If you want to get mathematical, roulette follows a geometric distribution. It can be proven that the geometric distbn is a memory less distbn. In other words the prob of getting 7 reds in a row is small, but the prob of getting a red, given that the 6 previous spins were also red IS STILL 18/37.

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26-10-2010 01:59 PM

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JDT
Just did a simple simulation in Excel and got the same colour up to 20 times in a row... enjoy your strategy while it lasts. At some point you'll loose it all in one go.

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26-10-2010 02:02 PM

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Franksays
Ninja, please read this article about this exact thing. Check out the charts too and lte us know what you think?http://www.smbtraining.com/blog/random-thoughts-or-rather-thoughts-about-randomness

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26-10-2010 02:07 PM

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Ninja
Prancing horse, I believe you but you are talking about extreme events....on the markets you would be discussing a black swan event....if so you lose you cash on the night and walk away as you would do on a bad trade. What I am saying is this system works most of the time and I have made some very nice cash using it.

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26-10-2010 02:08 PM

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Ninja

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26-10-2010 02:11 PM

the odds remain unchanged, it is the probability that changes.

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john_1
Well this is intersting...The first part of what you saying is right. that its about probability... so try using that to ones advantage...If one waited for 2 reds then bet one single time one would inded be putting the very short term odds in ones favour. however as has been pointed out this in itself is not a very fail safe opption... what may be more interesting( and I have never played rollette so forgive me if I am wrong) but if one recorded 100 bets (rolling, in the same way a moving average dumps the oldest data) then placed ones bets based on any major deviation from the 50% rule... so if after 100 bets the reds are 51 and black is at 49 hardly worth a bet but after 11 more bets, it may be that black is now 60 to reds 40 now that might make it worth a punt..would be interested to hear those who knows comments.

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26-10-2010 02:16 PM

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Ok Ninja, you are a maths man so let me put this in a way to better show you why it's not a good idea... Lets say you start your 1st bet with R100 on Red and you lose... you double up each time waiting for red to come up... by the 6th bet you would be betting R3200 assuming the last 5 spins were black. The situation you are now in is that if on that 6th spin black comes up again your are now down R6300... but if re comes up you are up R100. So you are happy to risk R6300 to make R100 on a 50/50 chance of the right colour coming up... it's like buying a share thats about to go bankrupt but if by luck it doesnt go bankrupt you can make a one and a half % return... Doesn't sound too clever now does it?

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26-10-2010 02:17 PM

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