BAN Georgem

[topgun]

hi s, keeping my head down to avoid the shrapnel from the market...you can always debate with georgem?

[Brazen]

Do we really have to ban him? Can't we just torture him a bit?

[john_1]

Why only a little a bit? (did I mention its nice to have you around the place again B)

[#4]

Georgey, the m at the end of your name, it is martinus, marike or masikulu.

[topgun]

I think steelhead should go and work at the Landbank (or Eskom?) for 6 months....or any govt. dept of your choice....I am sure you will be transformed when you report back...

[striker]

Amazing how many times political sensitivities surface on this Forum. It speaks volumes of the great divide amongst citizens,and the fractured nature of the Country.

[topgun]

this is what happens when you have a complete and utter lack of leadership and vision and the governing(?) party is occupying itself with petty politicking with absolutely no concern for what happens to the country...if you don't like it, leave!!??

[saash]

Yes, these issues surface because they have a profound impact on the economy and hence our currancy and our stock market. so, therefore, they will certainly be raised every time.

[Brazen]

. . . utter lack of leadership and vision and the governing(?) party is occupying itself with petty politicking with absolutely no concern for what happens to the country. . . . sounds like the US at the moment, not to mention the UK. Imagine a world where we have Zuma and the US has Palin. And the Brits already have Brown.

[#10]

B, you have to include Mugabes and Zim on the list

[topgun]

...and people at a ground level have comparable everyday experiences? What makes the news there, doesn't even feature in local community newspapers!! Rape, robbery and murder is par for the course here....how quickly we adjust our values and norms...

[striker]

Have you all noticed the volume of top exec's ,from listed coy's, that are bailing out ? This trickle I fear, might become a torrent, if a Zuma presidency becomes a reality !!!

[#13]

A question for the die-hard believers of our current situation: How many companies would be BEE compliant now if they had had a choice. Im not sure what the Oxford definition of the word Compliant is, but it will certainly point to something like "Forced,Have to, Must " etc, otherwise face the consequences , which i assume are pretty threatening if everyones complying. I suppose you d never really get that answer from any exec out of fear of being Rightist and flying in the face of politeness.These are simply things people condone cause "Its the right thing to say ". Nevermind your true feelings.

[striker]

Must say ,I'm with you on that score Geo.

[BRE]

Ja nai, after generations of apartheid, it's easier to see them as cleaning staff rather than shareholders. Shame on them ...

[schizo]

it is widely recognised by most top ceos that diversity in the workplace leads to improved performance

[striker]

The apartheid excuse,is not just a tired one ,it's actually now a Ghost,that some prefer to keep alive,to blame all our Country's ills on.If fourteen years under ANC rule ,has been this poor,no amount of time or lame excuses,will change anything !

[#18]

That actually refers to optional diversity vs forced. Not very convincing im afraid.

[BRE]

So you recon 14 years is enough to reverse the damage made by apartheid? 40 years of feeding them gutter education, while we build the country on their sweat and in 14 years they're supposed to be equals? 14 years and we still have racists among us?

[striker]

BRE - so you reckon,the ANC's education programme,is way better than the old one ? You reckon this Govt. has the leadership and the quality of personell to be an overwhelming sucsess ? I suppose you also believe that charges against Zuma should be dropped ? How many more years you reckon we can blame Apartheid ? Do you really believe the plight of the blackman ,is any better under the ANC ? Do you reckon they even care a hoot about these folk, cause they sure dont show it.So give us a timeframe ,when things will all sorted ,and this govt. will deliver !!