and by the way i use FA for entry points and FA to find the right company, my long term strategy is to buy and hold stock for capital maximum capital appreciation, incl high div yields, and im thinking that with all the inflation figures etc the interest rates are going to peak next year and maybe start the decline towards the end of 2009. im basing this on my previous study of the similar rise in interests in 1998 if im not mistaken, and it comes approximately every 8-9 years. so my strategy for the end of this year is to invest heavyly in interest sensitive stocks, aveng doesnt really fit into that so ill monitor til abt next year march then decide.