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DEP
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Q1. What will a "Zuma Presidency" mean to the market? Q2. And has the market factored any risk regarding possible "Zuma Presidency" ? We will know around the 15th December 2007...
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current name changes + zuma presidency could mean the rand becomes the zum dollar
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DEP
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Hhmmm... what should shares we buy as insurance?
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I will answer all in 1 --- Immigrate
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Dunno why everybody is so worried about Zuma; coupla points to remember: he has consistently defied Mbeki over Aids, speaking out on the issue while the Prez has kept schtum. This shows strength of character. He's also begun doing exactly what a presidential candidate should do - doing the rounds of opinion-makers, business people etc, patiently taking questions and providing answers. Unlike Mbeki, who avoids public confrontations and rarely bothers to explain hisself to us prolls. Zuma is also a consensus maker - he helped broker settlements between warring factions in KZN; he is good at taking in a wide variety of views; Mbeki, of course, has nitwits like RS Roberts and a tight circle of trusted confidants beyond which he almost never strays. Last, I like Jacob becaws he's a bloke - he's not another African intellectual leader who believes his own head-derived ideas are entirely right and therefore, he's entirely indispensable. Our Jacob may have made mistakes, and heck, gotten a legover with the wrong babe. But then, old Bill Clinton too was a bit of a wide boy. And good grief, the US economy, and America by extension, flourished under his tenure.
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DEP
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Who or what can stop Zuma at this stage? He seems to have alot of support at ANC branch level.
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quovadis
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Remember the posting about the exchange rate of the Zim$ to the Britsh pound 14 years after independence, as compared to the laughable rate at present. When the rand goes totally pear-shaped (as it no doubt will with just a little time), we'll all become financial detainees. But the bright side is that we'll be able to move to the Knysna/Wilderness area cos property will become seriously cheap.
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Dude, it ain't never gonna be cheap. You too late.
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DEP
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Gravy, how will foreign investors treat our market, please remember that about 25% of current JSE trade is foreign?
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DEP
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Who thinks Zuma will be the next ANC president in December 2007?
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Investors don't like uncertainty. From their perspective, Zuma is unknown and what little they HAVE heard, is bound to make them nervous. But. If he wins come December, he will have the next year to begin presenting himself presidentially, give briefings and so on. If he does become president-in-waiting, his profile will be much, much higher, and a lot of the uncertainty around him will disappear. What he will need to do, more than anything else to calm nervous international money men, is provide assurance that he is not planning to upset the current financial framework.(So far, he says he's not). Investors don't give a toss whether he's a democrat or raging dictator. As long as he can convince them he's a Capitalist. I'd expect some rand volitility, and a load of noise in the media, especially from foreign news outlets. But disinvestment? Unlikely. Ultimately, investors go where the money is; if not, Iraq would have no oil wells, and Zimbabwe no platinum mines.
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DEP
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Good point. Has he got a good chance? Who has the biggest voting block, is it the branches?
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barry_1
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In my humble opinion Zuma won't be voted in as a presidential candidate as he is a Zulu and the rulers are all Xosas.From historical times there is a great deal of ill-feeling between the two groups.The ANC Youth and Cosatu are only backing him to annoy the ANC.Their pessidential candidate is not choosen by all the party members ,but by a select group of the so called elite.
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If he didna have a big chance, would Mbeki be so worried? ..And its the branches whose votes will decide. Odds seem to favour Mbeki, whose support from the Eastern Cape may be the deciding factor. But who knows..?
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john_1
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What I love about this, is just how democratic the syustem is.
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Wizard
Super Contributor
In a normal western country it is certain that they will have a president and there is no way that he can become a dictator. Here on the other side of the world, that chance still very much exists! Hitler's and Mugabe's CVs also looked very good for the job.If there is a chance for greediness to prevail it probably will. This is Africa and so much potential for abuse. I still ask, when is the cut off date for affirmative action to be abolished? It never will, because it suits the government.
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surfer
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I think Zuma is just all talking polotics to gets votes.When he has power ,how would he react is an scary thought.Power corrupts.We need cyril or Toyko ,.Sa is doing well and has potential but we dont need to be lead down the wrong path.The fact that zuma has support shows the mentality and ethics of africa
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Stock11
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I don't think the Zuma precidency will have any bearing on the economy or markets in the short to medium term (read first term in office). To change policies takes ages, and he hasn't shown any signs of changing any economic policies(except maybe for BEE) judging from the meetings he's been having with investors. Infact investors seem to be more comfortable than a lot of us on a Zuma presidency. The only people who should be worried are the BEE heavy weights as he has raised serious concerns over the current BEE and its implementation.
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SimonPB
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actually we will know on 21 december
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Project_Directo
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if not big J Zuma then who, his other ex-babe NKOSASANA!roflmao
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