very difficult to rely on SIM. On paper, it has R780m in cash, little debt and a NAV or around 250 per share. That is on paper. In reality, the assets are 50% cash, and the rest is the valuation of their mines, which have consistently missed production targets. Over and above that, the mines are ancient, deep and not protable. SIM is getting hammered because nobody believes they will be able to turn a profit. The trick in this situation, is to watch the cash pile. If they turn profit, and cash reserves grow, then peg your investment to that, ignore everything else, and judge their ability to generate free cash flow, because their mines are very risky IMO