Johno....PAM: Rio Tinto Group 72.90% Anglo American Corporation 16.79% Oasis Asset Management 4.89% .....MTX: Allan Gray Asset Management 19.30% Rand Merchant Bank Ltd 10.20% Sepiol SA 5.60% Metallica Trust 5.00% ....MTX: As a percentage of EBITDA: Coal 33.10% Copper 20.50% Gold 18.00% Antimony 17.60% Fluorspar 10.80% As a percentage of Revenue: Gold 31.00% Coal 30.90% Copper 14.80% Antimony 12.70% Fluorspar 10.60% ...my 1c worth....PAM (Palabora)returned to profit 467m vs -93m, higher prices certainly helped but overhauled smelter returning much improved efficiencies with continuing high prices bodes well for the near term whilst prices remaining above $5000/ton.....MTX: Whilst copper not the main contributor it is a generator of solid earnings whilst gold is the drag....while copper, coal & antimony prop up the gold business in terms of ratio's, if gold price starts to climb significantly then MTX will bolt. MTX involvement with Gecamines (Congo)involves lots of smoke & mirrors...OMO